No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils

[Marty]

Hello,

can anyone tell me how I can use ZSE 033 Coils on a VW 16V Turbo engine? The Coils need an positive signal for Ignition. When I remember right the EMU gives an negative signal out.

Have I to use us pullup like these: http://www.megasquirt.de/msforum/viewtopic.php?t=4472 or does I have to buy other coils?

Thanks for your help!

Greeting,

Marty

[Karel]

If you use EMU, you just simply select Coils with or without amplifier ................. The VWgroup COPs are :smart: so they have bulit in amplifier.

[Marty]

The BERU ZSE 033 Coils are with built in amplifier, they are used in the VWgroup.

1: Permanent plus (+6 up to +16V)
2: Permanent minus
3: Signal for ignition 5V
4: Minus for signal

The coils doesnt fire when I connect it to pin 3.

When I give permanent 5V to pin 3 and the EMU to pin 4 it does also not fire.

The ECUMASTER have to give out an 5V then the coils will be fire. But what I have to do or to buy? The Megasquirt have the option to change it to an 5V signal. The EMU also? Where?

[PSI-Motor]

You can't have permanent 12v, it must be switched.
The EMU doesn't have any problems running these coils.

[Ben1979]

the emu has problems running these coils.
the wiring is correct, we need a positive (5-14V) signal for the coils.
it is possible to switch the ignition outputs from negative to positive, yes or no?

[Jadzwin]

Just select active coils

[Ben1979]

Where can I select them?

[Marty]

Just select active coils

What coils should I use? Did you have an other type of coils in the same size like BERU ZSE 033 Coils?

[Jadzwin]

EMU is able to work with any coil.
This Beru coils work for sure.

Do you connect one coil to one EMU output ? Or you paired them ?

[Ben1979]

one coil, one output.
Black 16 and Grey 8,16,9

[Jadzwin]

And what is your ignition otuput config ?

Could you send log file ? Is you trigger system correctly synchronised ?

[Ben1979]

Seems like i couldnt upload any file, can i send you a email with the log file?

[Jadzwin]

You can use attach function from forum (for emu files) or send it to tech(at)ecumaster.com

[Ben1979]

i think we solved it. we had trouble with the primary trigger. now we have a lot of sparks.
thanks for your help everybody