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Post by RHD » Sat Sep 05, 2015 3:42 am

I have a customer interested in fitting an EMU to a Viper V10, has anyone done this or heard of this being done? I know very little about this engine are there any problems he might face?? any input appreciated thanks.

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Re: viper v10

Post by Karel » Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:21 am

RHD wrote:I have a customer interested in fitting an EMU to a Viper V10, has anyone done this or heard of this being done? I know very little about this engine are there any problems he might face?? any input appreciated thanks.
Start with firing order

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If it has Wastespark.... should be possible with group injection.........

Older enigen are using distributor and newer variable cam timimng so you would be out (EMU ca use only 2 variable cams)

and i fould good site about some tuning software for stock ecu.... you can use this maps as "start" information

http://driveviper.com/forums/threads/47 ... 4802a47d26

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Re: viper v10

Post by samvel » Sun Sep 06, 2015 10:28 am

I have done Viper v10 with Autronic (4 ign outputs) + M&W multiplexer CDI. Injection can be semi-batched with 5 channels, but most tricky part is odd fire ignition, means event intervals are unequal. You can not just wastespark it with correct firing order.
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Re: viper v10

Post by RHD » Sun Sep 06, 2015 2:26 pm

Ah ok!

So no 2 pistons are at TDC at the same time?? odd sequence up to 5 pairs can be done with IG offsets.

So if it is the early model with distributor does that make it any easier?


Edit: A bit of research tells me they run a 90-54 degree sequence so in that case there would be no 2 cyl at tdc!

But from photos it looks like they actually use duel post coils indicating a wast spark configuration.... can anyone confirm?

That would mean 5 cylinders are running very different timing, unless they are doing something very clever with the position of the wasted spark or something??

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Re: viper v10

Post by Jadzwin » Mon Sep 07, 2015 2:00 pm

Is the engine odd fire the wasted spark is not possible.

For distributor it would be probably possible (different ign. angle could be obtained by proper ignition offset for every ignition event) but requires cam sync...

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Re: viper v10

Post by RHD » Mon Sep 07, 2015 4:54 pm

I dont think many things will run 10cyl fully sequential so sounds like the best solution would be 2 ecu's

then they can control all 4 cams too :)

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Re: viper v10

Post by Jadzwin » Mon Sep 07, 2015 5:45 pm

Tuning will be hard, but it could be solution.

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