Opel X30XE V6 Turbo

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p30esteves
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Opel X30XE V6 Turbo

Post by p30esteves » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:15 pm

Hi, need some help, i need to see if i ve got the ignition Outputs right, car is Opel with X30XE Engine with Turbo, I will upload the ignition and injection settings to see if I have something wrong. On autodata tell me , the ignition firing order is 123456 and I am using a original wasted spark coil witch is a double fire coil 3x 0221503002, car wants to start but sometimes i can detect some missfires. Ive also check the ignition angle and is correct.

Coil Wiring:
Ignition 1- Cylinder 1 and 4
Ignition 2- Cylinder 2 and 5
Ignition 3- Cylinder 3 and 6
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p30esteves
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Re: Opel X30XE V6 Turbo

Post by p30esteves » Wed Mar 01, 2017 3:19 pm

I forgot this one
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pric
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Re: Opel X30XE V6 Turbo

Post by pric » Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:10 pm

Seems alright if you have them wired Coil1 to Output1, Coil2 to Output2, Coil3 to Output3.

How are your injectors wired up?
Bank Fire?
Mercedes C280 M104 Turbo

p30esteves
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Re: Opel X30XE V6 Turbo

Post by p30esteves » Thu Mar 02, 2017 2:11 am

pric wrote:Seems alright if you have them wired Coil1 to Output1, Coil2 to Output2, Coil3 to Output3.

How are your injectors wired up?
Bank Fire?

Hi pric, the injectors are wired up individualy, 6 wires to the ecu for the 6 injectors and external 12v suply.

Thanks

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Re: Opel X30XE V6 Turbo

Post by pric » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:19 pm

But you are going for bank fire?
Because of no CAM sensor and your injector phase...

Enable "squirt twice per cycle"

Are you getting spark and fuel?

If so, try adding/removing pulse width in the cranking fuel table.

Could be missfiring, because of too little fuel.
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Re: Opel X30XE V6 Turbo

Post by p30esteves » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:34 am

pric wrote:But you are going for bank fire?
Because of no CAM sensor and your injector phase...

Enable "squirt twice per cycle"

Are you getting spark and fuel?

If so, try adding/removing pulse width in the cranking fuel table.

Could be missfiring, because of too little fuel.
Hi, I don´t use cam sensor, injectors are connected individual to each injection output, should I wire them diferently? Yes I get all the spark in time, and I get Fuel. I will upload my project, if you could help me to find the problem.

Thanks
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Re: Opel X30XE V6 Turbo

Post by pric » Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:00 pm

NO you don't have to wire them differently.
But without cam sensor you can't run sequential injection.

Therefore you have to use squirt twice per cycle,
without that the injector is firing on the wrong stroke for one cylinder,
which is referenced to the same ignition event.

Other than that looking at the map you are drowning the engine.
Cranking fuel is way too high, and you have batch fire and prime pulse activated.
Deactivate prime pulse and lower the cranking fuel table to 2-5ms.

If you have the possibility of using a cam sensor, use it!

greetings
Mercedes C280 M104 Turbo

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Re: Opel X30XE V6 Turbo

Post by p30esteves » Sun Mar 05, 2017 10:42 pm

pric wrote:NO you don't have to wire them differently.
But without cam sensor you can't run sequential injection.

Therefore you have to use squirt twice per cycle,
without that the injector is firing on the wrong stroke for one cylinder,
which is referenced to the same ignition event.

Other than that looking at the map you are drowning the engine.
Cranking fuel is way too high, and you have batch fire and prime pulse activated.
Deactivate prime pulse and lower the cranking fuel table to 2-5ms.

If you have the possibility of using a cam sensor, use it!

greetings
Hi pric, thanks for your help, the problem has been found, i have the pull up option activated in primary triguer thats why it didn´t want to start. after deactivate that option car started firts time.

Many thanks

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