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S50B32 problems with cam sync and more

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:12 pm
by teitur
Hi

Have problems with secondary trigger signal on S50B32 engine.
All three trigger sensors are VR type. 60-2 cranck wheel, 6+1 exhaust and 6 intake wheel.
Can someone please check trigger settings, vanos settings and maps.

Re: S50B32 problems with cam sync and more

Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:22 pm
by teitur
Added log 1732. At 1:02 engine stalled with backfire.

Also rough on idle and misfiring at lower rpm. Sometimes idles fine and stable until adding throttle.
Added second log where idle is fine 2:20 - 3:33. After touching pedal

Re: S50B32 problems with cam sync and more

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:33 pm
by teitur
Scope logs. One with rising and other with falling edge secondary trigger.
Which one is correct?

Re: S50B32 problems with cam sync and more

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:32 pm
by Karel
well, it looks like everytime ... shitty old wirring, and noisy mag signal from cams...... try to use some pulldown resistors ...... or make proper wirring harness and it will worl fine.

Re: S50B32 problems with cam sync and more

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:45 pm
by Karel
this is correct Scope

Re: S50B32 problems with cam sync and more

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 10:14 pm
by teitur
Tried new shielded cable(separated from other wires) on sec trigger with no improvements.
Also changed over cam1 and cam2 sensors, tried another sensor from working car- same results.

Yes cam2 is noisy but thats not main problem at moment.
Small fluctuation may be from wiring but totally messed signal?

Will try resistors tomorrow.
Give me example what wire you recommend for vr sensors?

Re: S50B32 problems with cam sync and more

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:45 pm
by Karel
cca 1k Ohm will be my start something between 500 Ohm and 2k Ohm worked in most cases by me.

Re: S50B32 problems with cam sync and more

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2018 10:33 am
by teitur
Now signals are clean but its another problem. Camsync is working it shows cam signal but its not showing exhaust cam angle. Wiring is okey, sensor is okey(it will show signal normally) then we tryed another ecu --- still same story. We tryed even older version software but still same. It will not just showing exaust cam angle. Vanos is fysically okey and moving normaly. Have anybody ideas what can be wrong?