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Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:17 pm
by golf_g_turbo
Hello,
Is there a way or a update planed to run the stock Audi aby aan adu Trigger system 135/136 and cam hall or only with 60-2 conversion? At time i found nothing about this in the manual.
Thanks
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:11 pm
by Jan32
Audi sec and prim trigger are supported in actual firmware. There are a lot of new features in newest firmware. The manual is based on version 1.016 and actual firmware now is 1.062!
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:44 pm
by TD-Motorsport Shop
Hi,
- 135 Teeth Sensor on primary Trigger > Audi trigger135 Teeth
- Second Crank Sensor on secundary Trigger > Audi trigger
- Cam Sensor on CAM#2 > Audi trigger
is that correct?
best regards
Daniel
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:56 pm
by golf_g_turbo
Thanks for the fast answer @jan, i found the solution in the release notes on the .pl site Today. give it a base setup for a stock aan engine at time??
@ TD Motorsport i think this is the right setup put how adjust the rest, trigger angle ...................................................................
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:42 pm
by Jan32
There are nor basemaps at all. But it is not a big problem. There a lot of informations in the imtermet. And you get here all help you need.
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:07 pm
by TooM-As
Hello, it is actually possible to use the audi 5 cylinder engine (10 or 20 valves ) with unit masterecu ?
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:08 am
by Jan32
Why not?
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:49 pm
by Jadzwin
We support audi trigger:
CRANK SENSOR (135 teeth ) need to be connected to primary trigger
CRANK SENSOR (1 tooth) - need to be connected to CAM #1 (with 1K5 pulldown )
CAM SENSOR HALL - need to be connected to CAM #2
CAM#2 defines what CAM#2 signal level will filter out CAM#1 trigger.
For falling edge LOW level of CAM#2 will filter out CAM#1 tooth
For rising edge HIGH level will filter out CAM#1 tooth.
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:58 pm
by TooM-As
That's great , thank you very much . One control unit from another manufacturer I have bought , but after finding out that does not support 5 -cylinder engines .
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 12:41 am
by Horsty
hi there,
do i really have to use the cam#2 sensor? or does it run without?
can't it calculate everything due the two crank sensors?
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 7:33 pm
by Jadzwin
Yes you need to use 3 sensors otherwise the ignition timing will not be correct.
It is mechanical limitation of the Audi ignition system
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 8:55 pm
by Horsty
thank you, but could you please explain it a little bit more?
the tdc-pin is 60° before tdc on the flywheel and then there are 135 teeth.
so wouldn't it be (135*2)/5=54 teeth for every single cylinder to calculate the ignition timing?
im asking because i want to get rid of the distributor and don't want to weld the a bracket to the cylinder head for the cam sensor towards the timing belt wheel.
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Sun May 03, 2015 2:25 pm
by Horsty
sometime some sleep tells you how dumb you are.
just forget about my previous questions. crank to cam ratio is 2:1.
with crank only its not possible to set ignition and fuel to fully sequentially.
and thats what you have to do with a 5-cylinder...

Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 12:51 am
by Jadzwin
In general you answered your question. But it is possible to run 5 cylinder engine in wasted spark

Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 10:00 am
by Horsty
Ok. So now i have to add an additional trigger wheel to the 7a anyways.
Should i use the normal turbo trigger with one gap for the cams or are there better and more acurate triggerwheels i could/should use with the stock crank sensors? What about the r32 4-pin or the mx5 3pin wheels? Do they improve something?
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 1:01 pm
by Jadzwin
Use the standard cam sensor
Re: Audi I5 Trigger
Posted: Mon May 04, 2015 2:53 pm
by Horsty
ok. thank you!