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No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 4:17 pm
by Marty
Hello,
can anyone tell me how I can use ZSE 033 Coils on a VW 16V Turbo engine? The Coils need an positive signal for Ignition. When I remember right the EMU gives an negative signal out.
Have I to use us pullup like these:
http://www.megasquirt.de/msforum/viewtopic.php?t=4472 or does I have to buy other coils?
Thanks for your help!
Greeting,
Marty
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2016 7:45 pm
by Karel
If you use EMU, you just simply select Coils with or without amplifier ................. The VWgroup COPs are :smart: so they have bulit in amplifier.
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 11:19 am
by Marty
The BERU ZSE 033 Coils are with built in amplifier, they are used in the VWgroup.
1: Permanent plus (+6 up to +16V)
2: Permanent minus
3: Signal for ignition 5V
4: Minus for signal
The coils doesnt fire when I connect it to pin 3.
When I give permanent 5V to pin 3 and the EMU to pin 4 it does also not fire.
The ECUMASTER have to give out an 5V then the coils will be fire. But what I have to do or to buy? The Megasquirt have the option to change it to an 5V signal. The EMU also? Where?
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 2:12 pm
by PSI-Motor
You can't have permanent 12v, it must be switched.
The EMU doesn't have any problems running these coils.
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 6:54 pm
by Ben1979
the emu has problems running these coils.
the wiring is correct, we need a positive (5-14V) signal for the coils.
it is possible to switch the ignition outputs from negative to positive, yes or no?
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:10 pm
by Jadzwin
Just select active coils
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 7:32 am
by Ben1979
Where can I select them?
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:36 am
by Marty
Jadzwin wrote:Just select active coils
What coils should I use? Did you have an other type of coils in the same size like BERU ZSE 033 Coils?
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:55 am
by Jadzwin
EMU is able to work with any coil.
This Beru coils work for sure.
Do you connect one coil to one EMU output ? Or you paired them ?
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 1:12 pm
by Ben1979
one coil, one output.
Black 16 and Grey 8,16,9
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 6:13 pm
by Jadzwin
And what is your ignition otuput config ?
Could you send log file ? Is you trigger system correctly synchronised ?
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2016 7:38 pm
by Ben1979
Seems like i couldnt upload any file, can i send you a email with the log file?
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2016 10:58 am
by Jadzwin
You can use attach function from forum (for emu files) or send it to tech(at)ecumaster.com
Re: No Ignition at VW 16V Turbo with BERU ZSE 033 Coils
Posted: Sun May 01, 2016 9:09 pm
by Ben1979
i think we solved it. we had trouble with the primary trigger. now we have a lot of sparks.
thanks for your help everybody