Audi I5 Trigger

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Audi I5 Trigger

Post by golf_g_turbo » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:17 pm

Hello,

Is there a way or a update planed to run the stock Audi aby aan adu Trigger system 135/136 and cam hall or only with 60-2 conversion? At time i found nothing about this in the manual.

Thanks

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Jan32 » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:11 pm

Audi sec and prim trigger are supported in actual firmware. There are a lot of new features in newest firmware. The manual is based on version 1.016 and actual firmware now is 1.062!
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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by TD-Motorsport Shop » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:44 pm

Hi,

- 135 Teeth Sensor on primary Trigger > Audi trigger135 Teeth

- Second Crank Sensor on secundary Trigger > Audi trigger

- Cam Sensor on CAM#2 > Audi trigger

is that correct?

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by golf_g_turbo » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:56 pm

Thanks for the fast answer @jan, i found the solution in the release notes on the .pl site Today. give it a base setup for a stock aan engine at time??

@ TD Motorsport i think this is the right setup put how adjust the rest, trigger angle ...................................................................

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Jan32 » Fri Oct 10, 2014 6:42 pm

There are nor basemaps at all. But it is not a big problem. There a lot of informations in the imtermet. And you get here all help you need.
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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by TooM-As » Sun Oct 19, 2014 10:07 pm

Hello, it is actually possible to use the audi 5 cylinder engine (10 or 20 valves ) with unit masterecu ?

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Jan32 » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:08 am

Why not?
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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Jadzwin » Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:49 pm

We support audi trigger:

CRANK SENSOR (135 teeth ) need to be connected to primary trigger
CRANK SENSOR (1 tooth) - need to be connected to CAM #1 (with 1K5 pulldown )
CAM SENSOR HALL - need to be connected to CAM #2

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CAM#2 defines what CAM#2 signal level will filter out CAM#1 trigger.
For falling edge LOW level of CAM#2 will filter out CAM#1 tooth
For rising edge HIGH level will filter out CAM#1 tooth.

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by TooM-As » Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:58 pm

That's great , thank you very much . One control unit from another manufacturer I have bought , but after finding out that does not support 5 -cylinder engines .

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Horsty » Sat May 02, 2015 12:41 am

hi there,

do i really have to use the cam#2 sensor? or does it run without?
can't it calculate everything due the two crank sensors?

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Jadzwin » Sat May 02, 2015 7:33 pm

Yes you need to use 3 sensors otherwise the ignition timing will not be correct.
It is mechanical limitation of the Audi ignition system

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Horsty » Sat May 02, 2015 8:55 pm

thank you, but could you please explain it a little bit more?

the tdc-pin is 60° before tdc on the flywheel and then there are 135 teeth.
so wouldn't it be (135*2)/5=54 teeth for every single cylinder to calculate the ignition timing?

im asking because i want to get rid of the distributor and don't want to weld the a bracket to the cylinder head for the cam sensor towards the timing belt wheel.

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Horsty » Sun May 03, 2015 2:25 pm

sometime some sleep tells you how dumb you are. :shock: :lol:

just forget about my previous questions. crank to cam ratio is 2:1.
with crank only its not possible to set ignition and fuel to fully sequentially.
and thats what you have to do with a 5-cylinder... :oops:

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Jadzwin » Mon May 04, 2015 12:51 am

In general you answered your question. But it is possible to run 5 cylinder engine in wasted spark :)

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Horsty » Mon May 04, 2015 10:00 am

Ok. So now i have to add an additional trigger wheel to the 7a anyways.

Should i use the normal turbo trigger with one gap for the cams or are there better and more acurate triggerwheels i could/should use with the stock crank sensors? What about the r32 4-pin or the mx5 3pin wheels? Do they improve something?

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Jadzwin » Mon May 04, 2015 1:01 pm

Use the standard cam sensor

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Re: Audi I5 Trigger

Post by Horsty » Mon May 04, 2015 2:53 pm

ok. thank you!

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