LS2 Coil Question

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LS2 Coil Question

Post by nisota » Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:51 pm

I've gone and bought myself some LS2 coils and now I'm getting stumped on the wiring and ECU settings.

This is the coil with built in igniter
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This is the wiring diagram:
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Firstly, does the EMU output at +5V on the ignition outputs? In which case am I wiring the C terminal to the ignition output and having the B terminal ground to the sensor ground?

Secondly, as the coils has a built-in igniter, I won't want to use the "Coils without amplifier" option, would I?

I know the second question is dumb, but the more I think about it, the more it confuses me.

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by PSI-Motor » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:42 pm

D. Switched 12v
C. Emu ignition output
B. Chassis ground
A. Head / block ground

Have the connectors disconnected while you do your configuration/updating firmware.
Use coil WITH amplifiers settings. These coils works great and i used them with Emu today without any problems.
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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by nisota » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:51 pm

PSI-Motor, thanks for the quick reply!

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by PSI-Motor » Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:56 pm

Your welcome :)

Don't overdwell them. At 3ms they have a energy output of 108 mJ.
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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by Jadzwin » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:55 am

Do you have datasheet for them ? 108mJ is HUGE spark energy....

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by PSI-Motor » Fri Oct 16, 2015 1:39 am

Jadzwin wrote:Do you have datasheet for them ? 108mJ is HUGE spark energy....
Yes. Do you want me to send them to you? :)
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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by RHD » Fri Oct 16, 2015 8:13 am

They are great coils and very easy to find here in Au, i often just use one of them on engines with a distributor!

are LS1 and LS2 the same? handy if we have a preset wizard for the dwell times

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by derOJ » Fri Oct 16, 2015 12:20 pm

PSI-Motor wrote:Your welcome :)

Don't overdwell them. At 3ms they have a energy output of 108 mJ.
But feel free to play arround with dwell, because LS2 coils have an over-dwell-protection wich comes active at about 7ms. Tested it ;)

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by PSI-Motor » Fri Oct 16, 2015 2:33 pm

The problem with overdwelling these coils is that you sometimes get an erratic sparkangle due to dwell/heat protection goes in.
The absolute max is 4.7 in my opinion, if you increase dwell above this it doesn't give you any more output energy due to the coil is full.
Insted you get heat :)
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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by Jadzwin » Fri Oct 16, 2015 3:10 pm

Yes please :)
PSI-Motor wrote:
Jadzwin wrote:Do you have datasheet for them ? 108mJ is HUGE spark energy....
Yes. Do you want me to send them to you? :)

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by ihiryu » Sat Oct 31, 2015 8:16 am

Did you ever get the data sheet? Installed LS coils on my RB20, wondering what to set the dwell at.

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by GrzesiekK. » Sat Oct 31, 2015 6:15 pm

ihiryu wrote:Did you ever get the data sheet? Installed LS coils on my RB20, wondering what to set the dwell at.
Which type of coils dwell time do you need exactly ??

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by Racekid21 » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:16 am

Could anyone please tell me the Partnumber of these Coils? I found something, but I don't know, if it's right.
12573190 That's the GM Partnumber.

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by Tomba » Wed Nov 11, 2015 10:20 am

I am currently using LS7 coils, would the ideal dwell time 3ms @ 14V? Although they look a bit different people say the specification is quite equal.
Could you post the datasheet in here so I can check what the optimum dwell should be in higher/lower voltage ranges?

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by GrzesiekK. » Wed Nov 11, 2015 4:29 pm

Tomba wrote:I am currently using LS7 coils, would the ideal dwell time 3ms @ 14V? Although they look a bit different people say the specification is quite equal.
Could you post the datasheet in here so I can check what the optimum dwell should be in higher/lower voltage ranges?

Hi, I used that same type of coils, try this dwell time table.
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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by Tomba » Sat Nov 21, 2015 11:13 am

Thank you grzesiekk,

I wasn't that far of. Only problem I have now is that after a compression check, change in ignition wires (from MSD to regular built in resistor wires) and a correct ignition output sequence 2 coils have seem to failed. If I connect them to another plug were the coil is working from they don't fire anymore.

Am I looking something overhead? Can these coils handle some heat? After shut down of the engine the heat from the t/c's is coming up and might overheat them.

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by GrzesiekK. » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:33 pm

Tomba wrote:Thank you grzesiekk,

I wasn't that far of. Only problem I have now is that after a compression check, change in ignition wires (from MSD to regular built in resistor wires) and a correct ignition output sequence 2 coils have seem to failed. If I connect them to another plug were the coil is working from they don't fire anymore.

Am I looking something overhead? Can these coils handle some heat? After shut down of the engine the heat from the t/c's is coming up and might overheat them.

I also use the ignition wires with pure copper core, if I damage a coil I'll let you know :) At the moment, the coils work fine.

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by Tomba » Sat Nov 28, 2015 2:12 pm

Hi,

3rd coil is out yesterday. I don't dwell them above 3 [ms]. What other things could damage them?
Vibration? Heat?

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by GrzesiekK. » Sat Nov 28, 2015 6:27 pm

Tomba wrote:Hi,

3rd coil is out yesterday. I don't dwell them above 3 [ms]. What other things could damage them?
Vibration? Heat?
Your coils are original GM product or any replacements parts?

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Re: LS2 Coil Question

Post by RHD » Sun Nov 29, 2015 10:21 am

Tomba wrote:Hi,

3rd coil is out yesterday. I don't dwell them above 3 [ms]. What other things could damage them?
Vibration? Heat?

you do realize they have built in igniters?? so COILS WITH AMPLIFIER needs to be selected!

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